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This idea, that "one man's meat is another man's poison", is part of why "seeing like a state" does so much violence. When you treat everybody the same, even if it's logistically the only way to stay sane/deal with the deluge, you end up with a lot of missed opportunities.

You know what this reminds me of? You've talked about how to get the attention of famous people, like how to avoid being brushed off. And your advice is to be referred by the famous person's friends.

From the famous person's perspective, they get so many bids for their attention, that their general rule has to be ignore, otherwise they never would be able to get anything done. So instead, they use their friends as a way to sort the wheat from the chaff, if a famous person hears about you naturally, through their normal life, then there's a much higher chance you're worth hearing out.

I feel like this problem isn't just an internet thing, but also a common theme in today's world in general. Maybe it's that shame doesn't work as well, maybe it's that we've all internalized "seeing like a state". For instance, in the USA, sports gambling has recently been legalized. It went from something you played for $20 once a year, to a vice that's being advertised 24/7 on every TV and youtube video. We've lost this technology of filters.

I believe in the UK there are designated places for gambling, and they're known ot operate in "seedy" neighborhoods, and this physical distancing helps convey that it's a "distasteful act", you have to separate yourself from "high society". But now, in the USA, (and I admit, this is where the internet does intersect with this phenomenon), as long as you have access to a phone, you can gamble thousands of dollars in the comfort of your own home.

I imagine there is something similar to be said about internet pornography, but I'll let one of Substack's many internet gender war researchers to take up that mantle.

I must confess, I don't have any real knowledge of Singapore, but from my limited stereotyping, I must imagine that this "seeing like a state" phenomena runs rampant, considering gum was only recently legalized (to my knowledge, at least). I do wonder about how since it's a city-state, does the lack of physical space cause some of the same problems you've noticed occur on the internet?

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Adhithya K R's avatar

Great essay, hope you develop this further and looking forward to reading it! The concept of a scissor that cleaves a fuzzy group into two was fascinating. This doesn't just polarize the audience, it also creates subtle incentives for the writer/creator that the writer might not be aware of (Scott Alexander called these below-the-surface incentives that push you in particular directions "tropisms" – https://www.astralcodexten.com/p/why-do-i-suck)

I'm curious, when you started writing, did it bother you when you polarized people, and was the impact higher when these people were friends/family?

I wrote a post explaining the Gervais principle yesterday and a few friends who didn't know anything about power dynamics found it fascinating. But also, a close family member in upper management unsubscribed without saying anything (I had used the words from the original post, "sociopath" and "loser" clarifying that these are symbolic and not judgments of character – but maybe I should have used different words instead). I have no clue why they left, but I can't "unsee" this feedback in some sense. Now it bothers me and I fear that this will give rise to tropisms where I subtly filter/smooth out my writing to please an imaginary audience. Surely I'm not the only writer who's facing this? What's your experience been? (Links to any of your past threads/posts appreciated!)

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